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Post by NYY23 on Nov 16, 2017 13:48:07 GMT -5
you use that strategy, it takes a lot of pitchers. Better have an offense that rarely needs a PH, PR, defensive replacement, etc...
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Post by JohnM on Nov 16, 2017 13:58:30 GMT -5
you use that strategy, it takes a lot of pitchers. Better have an offense that rarely needs a PH, PR, defensive replacement, etc... You would need Relievers that throw multiple innings. Not many around these days and no loogys.
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Post by jimbue2 on Nov 16, 2017 13:59:14 GMT -5
It works if u have the pen. Mets don't!!! But Andy's right in nl it's difficult to pull off with no dh
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Post by Norkee on Nov 16, 2017 15:19:04 GMT -5
Okay guys, 2017 MLB average for IP/GS is 5.5, and it's the same in both leagues. If your aces typically go deeper, then what's that number for your middle and back of rotation? So you can pretend that your staff is all going 7+ innings, or you can have a strategy that deals with the reality that, on average, they will go 5+, or lower (i.e., two times through the lineup) once you get to the third starter or so.
It's a new day, brothers. Don't be dinosaurs, or you can grab the bar stool next to JoeyG.
Analytics!
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Post by JohnM on Nov 16, 2017 15:27:50 GMT -5
5.5 is the average. What’s the median?
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Post by Norkee on Nov 16, 2017 15:38:08 GMT -5
Unknown, but help me understand why that matters.
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Post by NYY23 on Nov 16, 2017 15:39:19 GMT -5
median is an average!
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Post by Norkee on Nov 16, 2017 15:46:30 GMT -5
The median would mean half of them are above and half of them below but, in the Mets' case, they're talking about their 3, 4 and 5 starters, so maybe the question should be where's the 40-60 line. I don't know that answer either, plus I don't think it matters.
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Post by JohnM on Nov 16, 2017 15:55:53 GMT -5
If you don’t average over 5 innings pitched per starter over 162 games odds are good you are a sub .500 team.
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Post by Norkee on Nov 16, 2017 16:09:42 GMT -5
Agreed, and of 15 AL teams, 10 of them finished < .500 in 2017. NL was more even, with 8 under and 7 over. By MLB standards, the average starter is mediocre and the average team is mediocre. We see it all the time: 3rd time through the order is a question mark for many starters once you get past the aces.
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Post by JohnM on Nov 16, 2017 16:33:58 GMT -5
I’m of the belief you need to get as many quality starts as possible Out of your starters. 6 innings / 3ER or better. You can’t be pulling starters on this pace because they pitched through the order twice. We saw the craziness quite a bit from Girardi pulling CC and Montgomery many times too soon.
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Post by jimbue2 on Nov 16, 2017 16:34:27 GMT -5
Norks I agree 100% but without the right pen your doomed to fail ....I'm all for the analytic part of it ....I was the one who said Yanks in post season would be dangerous for that very reason.
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Post by roger on Nov 16, 2017 16:50:24 GMT -5
NO !!! Median is not the average (or mean) Average is the sum of values divided by the number of values. Median is the middle point where half the values are above and half the values are below.
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Post by jimbue2 on Nov 16, 2017 16:56:52 GMT -5
I thought the median was in the middle of two way traffic
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Post by NYY23 on Nov 16, 2017 16:59:28 GMT -5
NO !!! Median is not the average (or mean) Average is the sum of values divided by the number of values. Median is the middle point where half the values are above and half the values are below. Median, mean and mode are all an average in statistics. However, most people are referring to arithmetic mean when using the word 'average'. I was just messing around when I said that though, I knew what everyone meant.
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Post by NYY23 on Nov 16, 2017 16:59:55 GMT -5
I thought the median was in the middle of two way traffic Exactly, right in the middle!
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Post by roger on Nov 16, 2017 17:13:31 GMT -5
NO !!! Median is not the average (or mean) Average is the sum of values divided by the number of values. Median is the middle point where half the values are above and half the values are below. Median, mean and mode are all an average in statistics. However, most people are referring to arithmetic mean when using the word 'average'. I was just messing around when I said that though, I knew what everyone meant. No Nyy - median, mean, and mode are not all average in statistics - at least not in any stats class I took. Average and mean are the same. Average and median, I already defined. Mode is the value that appears the most in a set. If no value repeats, then that set does not have a mode. There are specific meanings to average (mean), median, and mode....no need to adulterate them
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Post by roger on Nov 16, 2017 17:14:16 GMT -5
I thought the median was in the middle of two way traffic simplicity is beautiful
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Post by NYY23 on Nov 16, 2017 17:40:25 GMT -5
Median, mean and mode are all an average in statistics. However, most people are referring to arithmetic mean when using the word 'average'. I was just messing around when I said that though, I knew what everyone meant. No Nyy - median, mean, and mode are not all average in statistics - at least not in any stats class I took. Average and mean are the same. Average and median, I already defined. Mode is the value that appears the most in a set. If no value repeats, then that set does not have a mode. There are specific meanings to average (mean), median, and mode....no need to adulterate them Well, in every statistics class I took, and I'll add that I was a statistics major, mode, median and mean were all averages. See for yourself www.wyzant.com/resources/lessons/math/statistics_and_probability/averages
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Post by dtwentythree on Nov 16, 2017 17:50:46 GMT -5
Man the BTB is in a full analytics mode!!!!
Goodbye old stats and old game strategy.
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