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Post by BernzAMatic on Feb 20, 2009 15:52:15 GMT -5
RJ,
Using your own logic "WE ARE THE YANKEES"
We need to hand back the last 4 WS trophies right now, because just off the top of my head, all are tainted by PEDS
96 Tainted by Pettite & Leyritz 98-2000 Tainted by Pettite, Stanton, Clemens, Canseco, Nelson and others.
Go ahead, hand the trophies over to the Braves, Pads & Mutts...or just forfiet the trophies for those 4 years because those teams had cheaters too, such as Stanton, Hoffman, & Cameron...and others
There is doing it the right way, and accepting it for what it is.
And I'm accepting this one and moving it to the PEDs board.
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Post by goodad on Feb 20, 2009 16:57:46 GMT -5
Nellie and Stanton Bernz? That's a new one on me.
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Post by BernzAMatic on Feb 20, 2009 17:32:27 GMT -5
Nellie and Stanton Bernz? That's a new one on me. Stanton is on page 205 of the Mitchell report, and I believe Nelie has said in a published report someplace that he "may" have experimented or words to that effect. Players named in the report: sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153646
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Post by RJPinstripes on Feb 20, 2009 18:05:29 GMT -5
O.K. so A-rod has a big time year with 75 homers, 199 RBI's and we win the WS. And we pull up #27. Great! Does this make you proud to be a big-time Yankee fan, when there is a strong chance we cheated? Mantle and Maris didn't (that we know of) cheat (take roids, PED) to produce ON THE FIELD ! I won't speak for off the field but? ?
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Post by RJPinstripes on Feb 20, 2009 18:08:48 GMT -5
But, isn't Yankee Pride and Excellence a big thing? Do we want to lower our standards? I've had it with the cheats and what they pretend to be!
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Post by POTY on Feb 20, 2009 18:22:59 GMT -5
I thought we had a new board location so you guys who were tired of talking about it didn't have to see PED threads? Let alone participate....
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Post by BernzAMatic on Feb 20, 2009 19:00:53 GMT -5
I thought we had a new board location so you guys who were tired of talking about it didn't have to see PED threads? Let alone participate.... POTY, This is the specific place TO TALK about PEDs...not where threads get moved to die...you can START PEDs threads here as well. We are just taking PEDs off the Main board and giving them their own board...which at the present time they should probably have.
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Post by riyankee on Feb 20, 2009 20:36:37 GMT -5
RJ , A-Rod has tested clean for six years . He will be tested by Olympic standards when he plays in the WBC ( much tougher testing than mlb has ) . So in my eyes if he passes he's as clean as anybody playing the game this year . So yes we should be proud if we win it . You can't hang a guy because you assume he's cheating even though he passed every available test given.
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Post by YFAlaska/Georgia on Feb 20, 2009 21:04:13 GMT -5
RJ you have one He(double toothpicks) of a viewpoint on this. I do look back at the patriots Superbowl victories as tainted because they were caught cheating. Now With A-Rod I will have to say that I believe that man is going to be clean, but as you have said we as Yankee fans will never hear the end of it. When we win the big one, it will all come up again, and again. So we will all be happy but our little punk brother the R. Sox and their side kick ESPN will not let it lie either. I wish it would go away, but it is not that simple and cutting A-rod from our team and having the rest of the 103 players live their dreams like nothing ever happened is right? This Roid problem is like a bad sunburn, the only thing that will make it go away it time. The game will heal itself for one reason and one reason alone, it is a truly awesome game.
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Post by Phil on Feb 20, 2009 23:17:21 GMT -5
I thought we had a new board location so you guys who were tired of talking about it didn't have to see PED threads? Let alone participate.... POTY, This is the specific place TO TALK about PEDs...not where threads get moved to die...you can START PEDs threads here as well. We are just taking PEDs off the Main board and giving them their own board...which at the present time they should probably have. That is exactly what I said: I made a new board, like I made a Off Topic or Fantasy Board, a new home so to speak. You can talk about PEDs here 24/7. Anyone!! If I wanted it gone I would have just deleted them. That would be wrong in my eyes, people want to share their opinions I get overloaded early with them. Everybody is different. There is a WRONG in the game that needs to be RIGHTED. Can we do it? I don't know, we can support it or deny it. As far as the game goes to me, it's what goes on between the lines.
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Post by POTY on Feb 21, 2009 7:07:54 GMT -5
POTY, This is the specific place TO TALK about PEDs...not where threads get moved to die...you can START PEDs threads here as well. We are just taking PEDs off the Main board and giving them their own board...which at the present time they should probably have. That is exactly what I said: I made a new board, like I made a Off Topic or Fantasy Board, a new home so to speak. You can talk about PEDs here 24/7. Anyone!! If I wanted it gone I would have just deleted them. That would be wrong in my eyes, people want to share their opinions I get overloaded early with them. Everybody is different. There is a WRONG in the game that needs to be RIGHTED. Can we do it? I don't know, we can support it or deny it. As far as the game goes to me, it's what goes on between the lines. Phil, No problem. I was just being a wiseguy because on the other board so many are complaining that they don't want to talk about it, and yet it appears that there indeed are those who do want to talk about it. I just don't understand why it had to be this way, but that's ok, I'm fine with it. I guess my issue is that I have 3 computers going at once: 1 is dedicated to work the 2nd one is dedicated to personal usage, and the third is a laptop my wife uses. I know it not a big deal to flip to another board, but I have so much going on that I just keep the main board loaded and refresh it every so often. But that's ok;I'll get used to checking back and forth between the two boards several times a day.
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Post by 2ismy1 on Mar 6, 2009 23:31:06 GMT -5
How much more embarrassment can we take! Release him ASAP and immediately get our suits to sue Alex and his agent for damages ($500 mill or so) for lying before signing the last contract. They did not honestly represent his talents, abilities, past performance etc. etc. They lied about what he could do. They used false pretenses regarding his past performances which (in turn) led to this new higher paying contract. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm sure this should be a case that many would go for! BTW Alex is under to us until 2017. Everytime he does or does not do something on the field will affect the New York Yankees. I am a 60 plus year Yankee fan and enough is enough here! Cut off this poison and move on. We have an excellent legal case here. I've read all the stuff, articles, the board etc. and no one has said this but WE GOT TO DO IT! STAND UP FOR YANKEE PRIDE! SHOW ALL THE OTHERS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO CHEAT TO WIN! AND ANY OTHER CHEATERS WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED AS YANKEES! ITA! Enough is Enough! I know there wasnt a rule at the time against what he did but hasnt there always been one about not cheating?
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Post by Retro Jimbue on Mar 7, 2009 19:19:16 GMT -5
define cheating???
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Post by DavidL on Mar 7, 2009 20:37:19 GMT -5
If there's not a rule against it, how is it cheating?
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Post by 2ismy1 on Mar 7, 2009 20:53:03 GMT -5
A person who defrauds, deceives or tricks others. Someone who behave disshonestly in games.
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Post by DavidL on Mar 7, 2009 21:49:37 GMT -5
A person who defrauds, deceives or tricks others. Someone who behave disshonestly in games. So the hidden ball trick is cheating? Stealing signs is cheating? The fake-to-third-throw-to-first is cheating? Lou Pinella dekeing the Red Sox is cheating? Faking a bunt and swinging away is cheating? Heck, by that definition, a change-up is cheating. Wow, tough room.
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Post by 2ismy1 on Mar 7, 2009 22:37:35 GMT -5
All the guys know bout thos things and if you do any of thos you arnt gonna say tat ur sorry. Ur describing tricks of the game, things tat all the guys know about not a PED tat puts you above everyone else. Somethin tat you know u shouldnt be doing, something tat you know ur teammates arnt gonna approve of.
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Post by DavidL on Mar 7, 2009 23:14:25 GMT -5
Hey 2, do they teach spelling where you go to school?
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Post by 2ismy1 on Mar 7, 2009 23:30:00 GMT -5
nope we havent had spelling since middle school but im on the blackberry so why worry bout spellin unless its bout life instead of somethin tat takes two minutes or ur day up, right lol. Im glad u care nuff bout wat i write to stop and correct it tho. Most college professors get paid to do tat so im getting quite the deal being being graced wit ur amazing spelling ability.
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Post by DavidL on Mar 8, 2009 7:33:27 GMT -5
And yet you fail to take advantage of such a deal. It really does make it easier to read when it's spelled correctly.
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