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Post by tarheelbomberfan on Jan 29, 2013 21:16:07 GMT -5
Don't believe those reports. Only MLB can take action. True John. However, if these allegations are proven by MLB's investigation, then the Yankees can and will act.
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Post by jimbue2 on Jan 29, 2013 21:48:49 GMT -5
right now the yanks wish arod's plane crashes......what's spiro doing these days???
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Post by JohnM on Jan 29, 2013 22:28:33 GMT -5
Drop him off to the Dodgers Attachments:
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Post by tarheelbomberfan on Jan 29, 2013 23:00:31 GMT -5
That might be the one place he might just fit in:-)
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Post by JohnM on Jan 30, 2013 7:05:04 GMT -5
It is an amusing footnote that Rodriguez’s contract was officially announced on Dec. 13, 2007, the day Major League Baseball released the Mitchell Report on steroids. Rodriguez, who had always denied steroid use, was not named in the report. Part of the reason for the length of the deal was the presumption that he was clean and would chase Barry Bonds’s tainted home run record in pinstripes.
It was all a fraud, or “A-Fraud,†to use the term that Joe Torre revealed in his book to be a clubhouse nickname for Rodriguez. Fourteen months after signing the contract, Rodriguez admitted he had used steroids from 2001 to 2003.
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Post by jimbue2 on Jan 30, 2013 7:27:25 GMT -5
thanks for the memories
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Post by Skinnyhead on Jan 30, 2013 7:38:39 GMT -5
How much for that ARod 600 hr ball now? This stupid sports contract brought to you by Steiner Sports.
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Post by DavidL on Jan 30, 2013 8:45:33 GMT -5
If Selig has enough evidence (and big enough cajones) to invoke the morals clause and act "in the best interests of MLB," ARod's contract can and will be voided. It's all going to depend on how much evidence the Feds and MLB can dig up.
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Post by JohnM on Jan 30, 2013 9:19:49 GMT -5
If Selig has enough evidence (and big enough cajones) to invoke the morals clause and act "in the best interests of MLB," ARod's contract can and will be voided. It's all going to depend on how much evidence the Feds and MLB can dig up. Agree 100%. Of course AROD deserves due process. MLBs pockets are too deep to make a less than thorough conclusion. Of course it wouldn't surprise me if Feds get involved if they are not already. As a side note if he is gulity using this stuff it doesn't look like it helped him much the last 3 years.
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Post by DavidL on Jan 30, 2013 9:44:17 GMT -5
The last 3 years may be the result of long-term PED use.
My understanding is that the Feds have been investigating the clinic for a while (they uncovered the info. that got Manny suspended).
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Post by roger on Jan 30, 2013 10:12:12 GMT -5
is there any way that Alex is out of baseball WITHOUT getting the remaining 114 (?) million
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Post by JohnM on Jan 30, 2013 10:29:08 GMT -5
is there any way that Alex is out of baseball WITHOUT getting the remaining 114 (?) million No. Sure he can face suspension even a lifetime ban terminating his contract but he will be paid.
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Post by roger on Jan 30, 2013 11:18:29 GMT -5
I am one of the skeptics that believes that Alex did not tell the whole truth during his "interviews" and "dog and pony shows" and even before he joined the Yanks, I felt he was one of the most disingenuous person around. However, during his last interview, he came off very articulate along with business savvy. He is smart, shrewd, and very calculating so, I have to ask.... He already signed a huge contract..... already admitted to using PEDs.....has already been vilified.....reputation already tarnished.....HOF election already compromised.....so, what is his incentive to NOT use PEDs again (i.e. so he gets caught, big deal...)
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Post by DavidL on Jan 30, 2013 11:30:02 GMT -5
is there any way that Alex is out of baseball WITHOUT getting the remaining 114 (?) million No. Sure he can face suspension even a lifetime ban terminating his contract but he will be paid. If his contract is terminated, he gets $0.
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Post by tarheelbomberfan on Jan 30, 2013 11:30:09 GMT -5
Agreed, Roger. Another slap on the wrist is all he'll get.
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Post by DavidL on Jan 30, 2013 11:30:22 GMT -5
I am one of the skeptics that believes that Alex did not tell the whole truth during his "interviews" and "dog and pony shows" and even before he joined the Yanks, I felt he was one of the most disingenuous person around. However, during his last interview, he came off very articulate along with business savvy. He is smart, shrewd, and very calculating so, I have to ask.... He already signed a huge contract..... already admitted to using PEDs.....has already been vilified.....reputation already tarnished.....HOF election already compromised.....so, what is his incentive to NOT use PEDs again (i.e. so he gets caught, big deal...) Good point.
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Post by JohnM on Jan 30, 2013 11:38:13 GMT -5
No. Sure he can face suspension even a lifetime ban terminating his contract but he will be paid. If his contract is terminated, he gets $0. I don't see MLPA accepting that. I can see them agreeing to a lifetime ban if the evidence over multiple years post 2003 is there but not the $0 payoff. Besides Alex will need all the $$$ for his PR and Legal fees. Getting him out the game if he's guilty is all MLB wants.
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Post by JohnM on Jan 30, 2013 11:42:09 GMT -5
Agreed, Roger. Another slap on the wrist is all he'll get. If the Miami article is correct he could face: 1. a 50 game suspension for 2009 use 2. 100 game suspension for 2010 use 3. 1 year ban for 2011 use. All w/o pay. But we have a long way to go. None of these allegations may be proved.
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Post by GoodFriar on Jan 30, 2013 11:46:10 GMT -5
Evidently, the Friar Is the only person here who could Not care less whether he gets paid or not. The Yanks Aren't going broke either way.
Aboss made the point in another thread. If this all plays out, And Alex is guilty again, he's gone. Period. The end.
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Post by DavidL on Jan 30, 2013 13:02:32 GMT -5
If his contract is terminated, he gets $0. I don't see MLPA accepting that. I can see them agreeing to a lifetime ban if the evidence over multiple years post 2003 is there but not the $0 payoff. Besides Alex will need all the $$$ for his PR and Legal fees. Getting him out the game if he's guilty is all MLB wants. MLPA may fight it, but they'll lose. Contract language gives MLB and the Yankees very strong basis to void the contract, thus entitling ARod to nothing.
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