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Post by FastEddie on Jan 11, 2014 13:24:15 GMT -5
Here comes Tanaka! I never felt these two were really linked. Hal knows he needed to go all out for Masahiro. Yankees ticket revenue declined from $390M to $295M last year. Enough said. You have every right to feel that way John, but I respectfully disagree. Even though they had every intention to pursue him aggressively regardless, it clearly gives them more $$$ to throw at Tanaka...even knowing they'll be over the $189M either way.
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Post by JohnM on Jan 11, 2014 13:30:39 GMT -5
Tanaka is only going to get so much money. I'm sure they are not going to give him anything extra. Deal or offer will be 7+1 / $17m to $20M a year with some incentives.
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Post by soxfan9 on Jan 11, 2014 13:45:12 GMT -5
Tanaka is only going to get so much money. I'm sure they are not going to give him anything extra. Deal or offer will be 7+1 / $17m to $20M a year with some incentives. Might not be any extra per se, but $20M a year for a guy who hasn't pitched a single inning in MLB? Better the Yankees than the Red Sox.
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Post by JohnM on Jan 11, 2014 13:48:44 GMT -5
I'm of the belief if Yanks could take him to court for fraud they would have done that in 2009. Not sure this changes anything legally.
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Post by FastEddie on Jan 11, 2014 13:59:25 GMT -5
His response to go to Federal Court is a Hail Mary if I ever saw one.
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Post by JohnM on Jan 11, 2014 14:01:50 GMT -5
Tanaka is only going to get so much money. I'm sure they are not going to give him anything extra. Deal or offer will be 7+1 / $17m to $20M a year with some incentives. Might not be any extra per se, but $20M a year for a guy who hasn't pitched a single inning in MLB? Better the Yankees than the Red Sox. Socks are in the mix.
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Post by DavidL on Jan 11, 2014 14:05:47 GMT -5
I'm sure many would like the Yankees to be able to void the contract, but it's very unlikely they can - the punishment for his offense is the suspension. Yankees can't do anything more. John is right, if the Yankees could have acted in 2009, they would have.
Most Hail Marys have a better chance than #13's appeal to Federal Court. Courts are notoriously reluctant to overturn arbitrators' decisions. Just claiming that the evidence is false is far short of what he needs to show.
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Post by FastEddie on Jan 11, 2014 14:14:23 GMT -5
Tanaka is only going to get so much money. I'm sure they are not going to give him anything extra. Deal or offer will be 7+1 / $17m to $20M a year with some incentives. Might not be any extra per se, but $20M a year for a guy who hasn't pitched a single inning in MLB? Better the Yankees than the Red Sox. Careful with that one amigo...how much did your team commit to get Dice-K before he'd thrown one ML pitch? And I would venture a guess that the Mariners have no regret at whatever they spent to get a certain Mr Suzuki before he'd swung at one ML pitch.
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Post by soxfan9 on Jan 11, 2014 14:34:01 GMT -5
Might not be any extra per se, but $20M a year for a guy who hasn't pitched a single inning in MLB? Better the Yankees than the Red Sox. Careful with that one amigo...how much did your team commit to get Dice-K before he'd thrown one ML pitch? And I would venture a guess that the Mariners have no regret at whatever they spent to get a certain Mr Suzuki before he'd swung at one ML pitch. I was never in favor of signing Dice-K in the first place and his annual salary wasn't even close to $20M. Of course the Mariners have no regret, but we also have the benefit of hindsight. Did you think he'd be as successful in MLB as he was? I didn't.
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Post by soxfan9 on Jan 11, 2014 14:35:09 GMT -5
Might not be any extra per se, but $20M a year for a guy who hasn't pitched a single inning in MLB? Better the Yankees than the Red Sox. Socks are in the mix. Right, and I'd rather see the Yankees waste their money on him than the Red Sox.
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Post by JohnM on Jan 11, 2014 14:44:20 GMT -5
DiceK cost them almost $108M for 4 seasons.
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Post by soxfan9 on Jan 11, 2014 14:50:10 GMT -5
How much of that did Dice-K receive?
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Post by JohnM on Jan 11, 2014 14:54:07 GMT -5
“The New York Yankees respect Major League Baseball's Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program, the arbitration process, as well as the decision released today by the arbitration panel.”
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Post by FastEddie on Jan 11, 2014 15:04:15 GMT -5
Careful with that one amigo...how much did your team commit to get Dice-K before he'd thrown one ML pitch? And I would venture a guess that the Mariners have no regret at whatever they spent to get a certain Mr Suzuki before he'd swung at one ML pitch. I was never in favor of signing Dice-K in the first place and his annual salary wasn't even close to $20M. Let's divide up the $51,111,111.11 they spent on the signing fee over his tenure there before you say that.
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Post by fordham on Jan 11, 2014 15:06:37 GMT -5
There's a 35-40% chance the decision gets modified by a Federal judge.
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Post by JohnM on Jan 11, 2014 15:10:35 GMT -5
There's a 35-40% chance the decision gets modified by a Federal judge. Judge doesn't have that power. Can only issue an injunction till it goes to trial.
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Post by soxfan9 on Jan 11, 2014 15:10:56 GMT -5
I was never in favor of signing Dice-K in the first place and his annual salary wasn't even close to $20M. Let's divide up the $51,111,111.11 they spent on the signing fee over his tenure there before you say that. Regardless of what it amounts to, it was money wasted and I'd rather not see the Red Sox make the same mistake twice, but I am more than happy to see the Yankees do it.
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Post by fordham on Jan 11, 2014 15:14:09 GMT -5
And a trial won't happen for a long time.
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Post by JohnM on Jan 11, 2014 15:14:31 GMT -5
He had two good years plus the team won a championship that he was a big part of. I doubt John Henry shed any tears.
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Post by JohnM on Jan 11, 2014 15:16:23 GMT -5
And a trial won't happen for a long time. I assume it will take years if he gets an injunction that MLB and the MLBPA can get overturned. Has no impact on anything.
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